Quote from: Happy Little Gekko on August 10, 2011, 12:31:35 pm
915 is a porn channel!!!!!  did u mean 515? press tv
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337/signature/new
go here, regester, f*ck over the rioters by taking away their benifits when convicted.... we shouldn't pay for their arrest because they stole our stuff!!!!

Don't they then have to loot and burgle more to stay alive?

not if there rotting in prison they dont 

There's obviously a reason why so many people feel the need to smash things up.....

I'm not condoning it, but it seems to have brought out crazy right wing daily mail ranting in the sane-est of my friends. I don't know enough about it to have a big debate....and can't really be arsed (net rage isn't good for anyone!)

but generally.... never has the "hang em and flog em" argument been a good one....

Some of the comments popping up on my facebook newsfeed have been making me a bit disgusted. Yeah it's knobbish, but it's also knobbish to suggest murder as a solution to political unrest.

Peace and love and butterflies and ghouls
Annie

PS Tom Hale if you post a picture of you dressed as batman in the midst of all the riots I'll send you a free dice bag! 

Personally I'm more of the oppinion that they should bring back national service. I'd be more than happy to do it for a year if it ment sorting this sh*t out.

I do find it funny that I was brought up a hippy liberal, and yet my opinion on this kind of thing is very right wing!
Had said i recon if you break the law you've broken your social contract, and you don't deserve anything!
I don't agree with them being called benefits, gives the impression that they're entitled to this.
Social care should be for those who really cannot work for legitimate reasons, or those who are really trying hard to find a job, but just can't.
There are plenty of jobs going in london, it's just they involve things like cleaning which most people on benefits consider below them.

Rant over, please don't judge me on this, I'm never normally so right wing!

Problem is that everything is still too touchy feely in a society where there are mutated civil rights/liberties. The simple equation should be if you want liberties and freedoms, you have to be and act civilly.

Rubber bullets and baton/horse charges should have happened two days ago. None of this bullsh1t fear of being sued because the police are doing their job.

Shame really that their aren't any US warplanes nearby, because if there was ever a welcomed occasion of friendly fire, collateral damage, then this would be it. Totally unreliable :)

I do like the fact that in the US shooting looters, totally acceptable. And shooting armed people who are threatening police, again, completely accepted.
People do seem to be glossing over the fact that the guy the police shot was armed, and had a handgun, which is against the law in the uk, If he was threatening to shoot, you don't wait until he does before shooting, you make sure that he is safe, which may mean using lethal force.

Quote from: noahtonkin on August 10, 2011, 02:35:26 pm
People do seem to be glossing over the fact that the guy the police shot was armed, and had a handgun, which is against the law in the uk, If he was threatening to shoot, you don't wait until he does before shooting, you make sure that he is safe, which may mean using lethal force.

Totally agree....

The two situations are totally separate though, but I do agree with the handgun issue. If you don't want to face even the smallest percentage chance of being shot by SO19, then don't effing carry a gun, simples :)

For too long now, hoody culture for want of a better tag line, has wrongfully enjoyed the luxury of intimidating people and causing no end of problems... with impunity. The government and public have been unwilling or unable to do anything about it, which has lead to this ridiculous display of hubris... but the scum have drawn the line now and the police should be wading in and beating them, literally senseless, and with equal impunity. That is after the police have utilised their very own version of "stand and shoot", whilst their cavalry rolled successfully for their Reserves and outflanked them... and I have absolutely no issue if a lot of them get trampled under hooves in the process. It's either that, or call Chuck Norris FTW - and that would be even more entertaining!!

Just give every policeman a brace of Tasers and the licence to use them at will during riots. Little risk of death but very good incapacitation rate