Ogre Kingdoms rumours

[maelzch]

From Wareseer

MODELS

Likely 'summer release' (June/July/August)

Plastic rhinox kit able to make a scrap launcher, rhinox ridden by an irongut rider (with parts for a lord or butcher) or a third variant that will be a gnoblar fighting platform/ chariot. 100+ pieces.

No giant remake.
No changes to plastics current.
A *possible* plastic set for tyrant/slaughter master. Price is 'on par with the minotaur lord, if it happens'.
New Gorger, metal and disturbing.

NEW ENTRIES

Gnoblar fighting platform
Rhinox Riders
Gnoblar hero choice, riding a giant (possible as a mount upgrade, as opposed to a special character?)
A halfling that got lost and now lives in an ogre camp, disgused as something icky no doubt (entry in list?)

RULES

(in no order)

A leadbelcher upgrade for Tryrants, with grapeshot, worked out per warpthrower old rules.

"hidden" rule for hunter and trappers. 4+ to see at long range

Slave Giants
Slave giant "barge" attack, d3 impact hits at s6 if charging father than 6 inches, plus 1 to roll on chart Possibly get extra rules when near the tyrant. More than a "tacked on feel" in the list

Rhinox riders are possibly more like a single model than units

Fixes to the ranking problem and a tighting to the spikefists. they have quite a few army wide rules

Dogs of war rule is in there. so far.

Slaughtermaster won't require a Tyrant to use them

Change to leadbelcher fire rule

Hunter cannot shoot and move

Ogres have same base armour save for gut plates

Bulls
Bulls as of now are cheaper with more default gear.

Gnoblar are the same in points.

Ironguts are now the elite unit of hungry ogres they are.

The magic items and big names are getting the same treatment as VC. butchers are getting overhauled completely.

"nowhere to run!" gnobular rule that allows gnoblars to rally at the end of a flee move if they flee through ogres. they take d6 casualties.


GUT MAGIC
gutmagic is gone, replaced by bound spells that effect the unit the butcher is in, with a ranged spell. level equals spells known. they are bought (ingredients)as of now they also impart a MR equal to the level they are. lord is a level 3, hero can be 1 or 2. only one per unit. one item for lord causes enemy wizards to roll every dice they generate and lose them on a 6 (hungry maw) then the number eaten modifies the roll on the ogres miscast list. item last whole game and counts as an army wide rule. 100pts

now its current incarnation is a magic item at 100pts. it confers an army wide rule. like the warshrine. no roll at the beginning of anything. every turn the opponent rolls his/her PD or DD and throws away any 6. those are the maws now. dice held in items dont roll. unless they get used. the pool gets rolled. anytime your hot finger touches a dice to roll in the magic phase, on a 6 its gone, including MR. this does NOT effect the OK player. to be clear. any.of.it. for every 6 rolled you keep track of it. this modifies the roll on the miscast table. the new one you force the victim....er wizard to roll on. it looks like the OK one now..

your level equals the spells you can buy off a list of spells. the spells are ingredients. troll fat is an ingredient that gives regen. on a 2+ the butcher gets regen, takes a wound on a 6+, on a 6+ the units the butcher is in get regen, he takes a wound. each model takes a wound on a 6+ no saves, (maw is hungry).

butcher will take a wound on a when its eaten by him. always if its the unit. also its RIP as now. one effect a unit, at a time.

Iron fists give an extra attack and a 6+ armour save.
Core choices will be cheaper by around 5 points.

Overall, there doesnt appear to be many changes atm, which i'm not too sure if thats good or bad.  One good thing that I've noticed is that there's no hint at all of them being merged into an 'allies' supplement.

Like always, i guess we'll have to wait and see the book

[fatolaf]

Magic seems quite odd, and no sign of new rules for their impact hits....Looks like a quick BoC rush release....

[maelzch]

yeah, but also bear in mind that these are the first hints of any rumours, so there could be a lot more to come

[Dave]

OMG an army of entirely large monsters, it's going to be so broken... 

Oh wait that was the reaction last time round. 

[Undead Dan]

I've heard a lot of people say that, but never actually saw it myself... anyway, sound good. The Giant rumour suggests that the ogres will still need to charge more than 6" to get their impacts. Phil Kelly seems to like ogre-sized creatures dealing impact hits!

[Veldemere]

Hmmm, far too far away for me to panic or celebrate too much. Good to hear rumours though and by the sounds of it they are not about to become an 'allied force'. Some of the rules sound interesting, but I have always held that one only needs to make a few changes to the current book to make it competitive.

Besides I don't want them to get too good because then I will lose my 'you only beat me because I'm using ogres' crutch.

[Funkadelic Erik]

Is it confirmed that they are next? Theres as many mutterings about TK coming out.

[Draig]

Official Rhinox Riders (as long as they are still DOW) makes me a happy, happy man.

[Veldemere]

Typical you will see Rhinox in every army now!

[Funkadelic Erik]

Ogres are broken. Can I get that one in early and then claim to have known it all along?