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Chariot impact hits

Started by fatolaf, February 13, 2010, 01:17:33 pm

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fatolaf

An interesting question came up last week when my TK took on Ritchie's Ogres..

My King did a solo charge with his chariot into a single line of Ogres, I had very little room so was barely clipping one model at the end of the line. My impact hits killed one, so Ritchie took away the model I was in b2b with.
Question: Could I still fight in CC? (I could have technically lost combat there)

Garzini

are impact hit casualties removed before fighting combat?
Charge.  Flee.  Your Turn.

fatolaf

Quote from: Garzini on February 13, 2010, 02:41:19 pm
are impact hit casualties removed before fighting combat?

Yep....

Tom Hale

Haven't got the rule book on me but I don't think that's right. Dosnt feel right anyway.
HKB list: 2 STank 2 grey seers 2 furnaces warlord 4 Abomos Drakenhoff BSB 2 stegs GUO 4 BoN 2 gorgons goblin lord+LV4 4 Billys ogre bsb warshrine hydra 10 mornfang 3 slaughtermasters black+Star dragon great brayshaman 2 ironblaster 4 maneaters DE lv4 krox necro knight 7 DGKs luminark 2 huricanums war altar emp peg bsb 2 hellcannons skullcannon 2 Brett Lords The Green Knight kharibdyss Black Orc Warboss Peg Paladin nurgle DP Stonehorn

fatolaf

Quote from: sainthale1988 on February 13, 2010, 04:25:26 pm
Does'nt feel right anyway.

I know but then there are many wonky rules in 7th ed...

Mike

rulebook says for impact hits  are distributed as shooting, but casualties are removed as detailed in the close combat section.

So the question is... if it wasnt a chariot but say a lord on Dragon... and the dragon caused 4 wounds.  Could you remove that one model so the lord couldnt attack... the answer I believe is no?

So i'd say the casualties should have been removed from the other end leaving the one in base contact.
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I am Mike of House OG.  Ogger in the North.  And Ginger is coming.

Garzini

if the impact hits count towards combat resolution, why would the models be removed before combat ?
Charge.  Flee.  Your Turn.

Julien

It says impact hits are done at the beginning of the close combat not before the close combat.
Vive le french abuse

Tom Hale

Casulties removed as normal implies rich got it wrong and you should have flailed away
HKB list: 2 STank 2 grey seers 2 furnaces warlord 4 Abomos Drakenhoff BSB 2 stegs GUO 4 BoN 2 gorgons goblin lord+LV4 4 Billys ogre bsb warshrine hydra 10 mornfang 3 slaughtermasters black+Star dragon great brayshaman 2 ironblaster 4 maneaters DE lv4 krox necro knight 7 DGKs luminark 2 huricanums war altar emp peg bsb 2 hellcannons skullcannon 2 Brett Lords The Green Knight kharibdyss Black Orc Warboss Peg Paladin nurgle DP Stonehorn

fatolaf

Quote from: sainthale1988 on February 13, 2010, 08:28:05 pm
Casulties removed as normal implies rich got it wrong and you should have flailed away

Aah to be fair it was the 2nd time we had 'both' played it that way in the game, but it just seemed ultra strange the second time...