If you go down to the woods today...

[Funkadelic Erik]

I do love using my beast army, and will get the book when it comes out, but I think I'll be holding off for a while until the fuss has died down a bit.

[Veldemere]

I do love using my beast, and will get it out, but I think I'll be holding for a while

Now Erik, even stealth filth is filth!

[Another Richard]

A "friend" of mine has seen pics of the new stuff including plastic minos, new doombull, updated gor and ungor in separate boxes.

Did your Friend say if they were the current models just split up or really new sculpts?

[Funkadelic Erik]

Now Erik, even stealth filth is filth!

You put your filth in my mouth!

[v3n]

Did your Friend say if they were the current models just split up or really new sculpts?

The minos and doombull are all new, the gors and ungors looked like better and updated versions of themselves

[fatolaf]

Not good news

Another little note on the battalion box.

It will contain 20 Gor, 10 Ungor and 10 Bestigor, all in plastic, and cost 55.00
This is the battalion box with the fewest number of models yet (made even less impressive by the fact that it only contains infantry).

With the upcoming prices, that is a saving of 15 (2x 15 + 15 + 25 = 70) compared to buying the individual boxes.

With the current prices, it is 1 pound more expensive (1.5x 18 + 15 + 12 = 54) compared to buying one and a half Beast Herd boxes*, a metal Bestigor command box and a box of 5 metal Bestigor. With that you get 2 less Gor than in the battalion but 2 more Ungor, so same number of models in total.
If you replace the Bestigor command box with another box of rank and file Bestigor, the price of the individual components drops by a further 3 pounds.


Thus the battalion does not save you anything compared to the current prices, which is probably a first, and only saves you something compared to the upcoming prices because the Gor and Ungor will be getting a 67% price hike.



* of course, you cant buy half a box in the store

[fatolaf]

From Lost souls

Not sure if already posted but I found this off warhammer forums.
Beastmen due out at the start of March.
*** Herds/Ungors are still mixed and rank up 5 wide. Champions no longer confer a +1 LD bonus - however the majority of beast units and characters have went up 1 in LD.
*** Ambush is still available to the herds.
*** Minotaur lords are still available and have access to Beast mutations. Makes minotaurs core.
*** Chariots are now special choices but 2 for 1.
*** Centigors are core and fast cav however you still need to take gors/ungors/bestigors to fill up your core slots.
*** Gorgon is the new monster in the Rare spots.
*** Centigor Hero available
*** Beastlords with LD9

The width issue is a no brainer to be fixed, I think we can take that as a given. I have also heard talk about different "breeds" of warhounds perhaps being available... I'm guessing this might be as simple as buying them poisoned attacks/regeneration/clown shoes and red noses etc etc.

I gather the roles of the Shaman and the Minotaurs will be expanded upon in this release.. makes sense and is, again, a kind of retrotastic move by GW back towards the RoC era fluff.

[fatolaf]

Some rumours from Dakka..

I visited my local GW today and found an old colleague running the store as most of the regular staff were off with Manbearpig Flu.

We got on to the conversation of WFB and some of the forthcoming releases...

One of them being Beastmen.

He told me what to expect from the book and confirmed some things I had wondered about:

The Marks:

All exactly the same as WoC. (God I hope this is not true, Slannesh BoC FTW! -Ol)

Special Characters:

Morghur.
Gorthor - allows Beastman Chariots as Core Choices
A special character Doombull - allows Minotaurs as Core Choices
Khazrak.
A special character Bestigor Upgrade.
A special character Centigor Upgrade.

Lords and Heroes:

Beastlord - can ride a Tuskgor or a larger Razorgor. Can have Marks.
Great Bray-Shaman - Can have a herdstone altar. Can have Marks.
Bray-Shaman. Can have Marks.
Doombull - Who doesn't allow Minotaurs as core choices. Can have Marks.
A hero level Beastlord. Can have Marks.
A hero level Doombull. Can have Marks.
Some sort of Beastmaster.
A lord that lets you have as many Bestigor units as you can field.

Core Choices:

Gors - Finally separate from Ungors, apparently Skirmish when not in combat, but then act as a full rank and file unit when in combat. These guys can have a musician. If i'm right about this, this means that these guys have a 360 degree LOS and are at -1 to hit from shooting and can still fight good fights??? Have light armour, can have HW and Shields or Additional HW. Cannot have Marks.

Ungor Skirmishers - Are basically cannon fodder. They have no unit upgrades except a champion. They Skirmish too. Apparently about as nasty as a Goblin, but with better WS and higher movement. Cannot have Marks.

Bestigor - You can only have one unit of these guys per unit of Gors. Str and Toughness 4. Can have Great Weapons, Additional HW or HW and Shields. Come with Heavy Armour. Can have Marks. These guys can hit pretty hard from what I've been told.

Ungor Trackers - Skirmishing scout unit. Braver than a regular Ungor unit. Can throw Javelins.

Chaos Warhounds - As WoC.

Special Choices:

Tuskgor Herd - A unit of Tuskgors led by a Gor. From what I can gather, similar to the Packmaster units in Skaven. They have a special rule called stampede that can backfire if they fail a panic check.

Tuskgor Chariot - Now have two Bestigor riding them. Can have Marks.

Centigor - Can now have Marks.

Minotaurs - As before but now have something similar to the Ogre Kingdoms Bull Charge. No longer have Bloodgreed. Come with 2 HW and can upgrade to GW. Can have Marks.

Rare Choices:

Mammoth - WTF??? A large Mammoth with several Gor/Ungor riding in it. I doubt this one very much.

Tuskgor Cavalry - This sounds awesome. Apparently Bestigor on a Tuskgor with a 2+ save if the riders have shields and they can hit really really hard. Can have Marks.

Chaos Giant - as WoC.

Spawn - as WoC.

Magic Items:

Apparently the Beasts get the worst magic list in the game. No confirmation on what they are though.

Magic Spells:

They get a complete overhaul of the current spell list. They also have their own version of the Lore of Beasts.

New Models:

The entire range except for the Characters, Ungor Trackers, Centigor and Tuskgor Chariot is plastic. PLASTIC MINOTAURS??? I wish

Now to clarify this, I didn't see the book, but this is from a former colleague who I worked with at GW for almost my entire tenure (at least 4 out of the 6 years) and he is has been right about rumours before.

[v3n]

Cheers for the post Ol can't wait for Feb, no dragon ogres though

[fatolaf]

I'm quite tempted by this army, just really depends on the new minis....