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Scry me a river (or my u/r devotion deck)

Started by Guillaume, May 04, 2014, 05:19:47 pm

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Guillaume

May 04, 2014, 05:19:47 pm Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:17:29 am by fatolaf
here's my scry me a river deck slightly modified from original intentions (not all that much scry in there anymore), looking for suggestions from u guys

maindeck:
4 [card]flamespeaker adept[/card]
4 [card]stormcaller of keranos[/card]
4 prophetic flamespeaker
4 [card]omenspeaker[/card]
2 sigiled starfish
3 [card]thassa, god of the sea[/card]
2 keranos, god of storms
2 prognostic sphinx
2 [card]bident of thassa[/card]
1 aqueous form
4 [card]magma jet[/card]
4 [card]lightning strike[/card]
4 temple of epiphany
10 island
10 mountain

sb:
1[card] hammer of purphoros[/card]
2 [card]firedrinker satyr[/card]
2 [card]satyr nyx-smith[/card]
3 [card]dissolve[/card]
4[card] fated conflagration[/card]
2 [card]anger of the gods[/card]
1 battlefield thaumaturge
1 [card]whelming wave[/card]

thanks for your input

BusiMagic

May 04, 2014, 06:48:14 pm #1 Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:18:01 am by fatolaf


Are you looking for this to be aggro, burn or more midrangy? Seems like it is trying to do too many things. Perhaps keep Thassa on the SB for matchups against more aggressive decks. You have so many scry options, Thassa seems slightly redundant. Then Thassa helps you against quicker decks and Keranos inevitability against control. Maybe bring in a combination of  firedrinker saytrs and dissolves.

Looks like a fun deck. Looking to move my Spellheart Chimera deck more in this direction.

Guillaume

Thassa is the best card in the deck without a doubt


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BusiMagic

 I always forget she is just a 3 drop. Forget what I said you are probably right. Do you make her a creature a lot? Have you used this yet?

Guillaume

May 04, 2014, 07:17:05 pm #4 Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:20:17 am by fatolaf
I was thinking bringing her down to 2 and keranos to 3 but iv been testing and people are super scared of her so they use their silence the believers and banishing light early, cos she generally Starts hitting on turn 5 (hopefully starfish into thassa into bidet into sphinx), she also functionally turns flame speaker adept into a 4/3 first strike, and makes his alpha strike unblockable.

It's neither and aggro nor a burn deck, it's kindof a combo deck in that without the right cards it doesn't do well, but in block the format is so slow that it can take advantage of the fact that I have a much better chance of drawing what I need when I need it.

And yes it's trying to do a lot but that's where the deck manipulation comes in, it can shape itself to whatever it's fighting which is a huge advantage in block where the deck types are generally geared towards one thing.  Your advice seems sound and iv tried different things, I have turned the deck into more of a control shell now (added 3 annuls maindeck and 1 searing blood and it's done slightly better against the horrible black white green reanimate deck that was plaguing me.

The advantage the deck has is its super resilient to thoughtseize (the undisputed best card in block) because I can play so well off of the top of my deck which surprises most people who often don't know what to expect. The one card I'm bit sure about is prophetic flame speaker, it has so much potential to be absolutely insane but it can't get past [card]sylvan caryatid[/card] without thassa or aqueous form, so I'm gonna try some builds replacing it with dissolve.



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Guillaume

I was thinking maybe adding some temples of malice to splash for thoughtseize but that seems a but ambitious


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BusiMagic

Thoughtseize doesn't seem particularly great on the splash. I feel it will be stuck in your hand too much but you do have a lot of deck manipulation. So much of it's power comes from being used in the first 2/3 turns.

Guillaume

Thoughtseize turn 1 isn't always good because you don't know what to take, but on turn 4, or 5 u know its the elspeth or the dissolve or the big threat that's going to kill you if you don't. It's probably the most powerful card to splash but maybe iv played too much modern where splashing is really easy and u only need 1 land of that colour


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BusiMagic

Without any sort of fetching, you would need 4/5 sources to reliably cast it? You do have very good deck manipulation.

BusiMagic

Would also give you more scry, assuming you use temples rather than mana confluence.

Guillaume

I'd use 4 temples and 3 confluences


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BusiMagic

Not sure there is a good answer to be honest on that one without testing. Will probably make the deck less consistent but more powerful. How many would you put in and for what?

fatolaf

Seems very vulnerable to deicide or at least game 1 till you SB dissolve in....
Apart from the gods what is the win condition ?

Please someone explain what is good about the [card]Firedrinker Satyr[/card] , never understood why some people rate it, it's in your SB, against what decks does it come in, and how do you mitigate for the huge amount of damage it does back to you?

Guillaume

Against control


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Guillaume

It's good because u don't have to play into supreme verdic to get ahead and it doesn't really matter if ur on 1 life against control. Deicide doesn't bother me, the gods are for utility and weren't even in the deck in the first place. The win condition is flame speaker adept


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BusiMagic

Also unless you are in a block tournament I can't see many people main decking 3/4 deicides. Disenchant isn't that important.

Guillaume

People maindeck 1 in block because most of the time more is just a dead card cos uv already killed all the gods


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Guillaume

But yh this is for the block gp inmanchester (I'm probs gonna play esper or bant but it's nice to have optikns


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BusiMagic

May 05, 2014, 03:26:10 pm #18 Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 04:03:39 pm by BusiMagic
Nice, I am going to a block tournament in Colchester on the 17th hopefully, running an b/w aggro if I can get the cards together.

Guillaume

R u free for play testing ?


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BusiMagic

Will be down for Cube draft but that will be it. Getting to Wandsworth from Chelmsford is a pain

Guillaume

Well if you can bring ur block deck on thursday or Saturday and well do some testing (that goes for anyone else who is making a block deck (I'm looking at ur angry cows ol)

fatolaf

Quote from: Guillaume on May 06, 2014, 03:18:55 pm
Well if you can bring ur block deck on thursday or Saturday and well do some testing (that goes for anyone else who is making a block deck (I'm looking at ur angry cows ol)

I could quite easily make it block, but losing the Reckoner would be traumatic to say the least  :cry: :endit:

Guillaume

Yh I suppose, but I don't have sphinxe's revelation supreme verdict have or detention sphere so u don't have much to complain about :


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