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Title: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2010, 01:23:49 pm
You guys in discussions with this lot?

Been looking at the Undead and think they're rather tasty as a considerably cheaper optoin.

Skellys are really good looking and the ghouls aren't the weird mutated creatures GW went for (which I was rather disappointed by) so they are far more desirable to me.

Plus they've covered off the grave guard option and cavalry coming initially as metals but per their website plastic later in the year.  All of which is somewhat nice.

Hmm now how many army projects would that take me up to...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on March 26, 2010, 02:07:20 pm
We were in discussion and I could place an order if there was enough interest....

But I was not blown away by their range so far even though I love the idea of the indivdual unit cases and bags..

But as I said if there is enough interest to cover an initial order then I will place it...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2010, 02:42:48 pm
No worries, no point in getting into their stuff if there's no demand, if I decide to go for it I'll let you know just in case you have more interest but otherwise there are other stockists should I really need.  Just wanted to check as my preferred supplier of choice.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on March 26, 2010, 02:57:56 pm
Ta Dave...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Tom Hale on March 26, 2010, 03:45:42 pm
When I go back to my vc. I'm going to want some of the ghouls, but that is some way in future
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on March 27, 2010, 12:00:34 pm
I'm going to see what the minimum order is...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on March 27, 2010, 09:43:19 pm
I have been in contact with them and I was quite impressed at their new stuff and they direction the range is taking.
I will be placing an order next month...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2010, 10:13:48 am
Just recieved my free ghoul through the post. Looks great but slightly smaller scale than gw which might put some off. Has same feel to the plastic and same mould line across the head. I dream of mouldline free plastics!

Really nice sculpt with good detail and nice pose. Obviously not too much variety as arms moulded with the body but I really like it. That's me set for vc or tk at some stage then!
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Tom Hale on April 03, 2010, 11:58:48 am
right serious question. i have 30 ghouls atm. how many is realistically needed for a ghouls based army? i'm thinking 75 ish (can't be worth rasing if i have 3 units of 25 on the board already).
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2010, 02:30:04 pm
there or there abouts, guess it depends, if you're starting with 75 on the board you'll probably still want to raise at some point just to see if your opponent is willing to waste dice throwing them at spells which won't really make much difference in the long run.  So I'd always go for a unit's worth on top of what you want to have on the table.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Tom Hale on April 03, 2010, 05:49:47 pm
most likely start with units of 12-15 and raise from there
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on April 04, 2010, 11:59:53 am
Will be placing a small order next week, min order is £100 so you really can't go wrong..
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Steve H on April 04, 2010, 12:06:58 pm
Do you know if you can get any of their Army deals Ol? Or is it just the standard boxes?

Some of the larger deals are really good value for money!

I think most of the army deals are only available through them, which makes sense.
But I will check when I ring them on Tuesday..
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 03, 2010, 04:16:04 pm
Right their undead and Accessories range is now up on the shop

http://www.oggames.co.uk/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=302

We need to spend a £100 to get the first order, so have a look on the shop and let me know here or via PM what you are after and I will send you an invoice..

We will for the first orders offer anyone who places a Mantic order 20% off RRP..

Also if you want anything not on the shop, ie the Elves or the new Dwarves, let us know as we have the prices for them etc...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Undead Dan on June 04, 2010, 05:11:19 pm
I'ma need to order 20 Ghouls, do I just do it as normal or do I need to do anything "speshul" to get the 20% discount?
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 05, 2010, 01:18:53 pm
Just PM me mate and we will send you an invoice..

Anyone else want any?
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on June 09, 2010, 04:44:43 pm
I'm going to hold off until 8th is out before I splurge, hopefully the full dwarf range will be out by then and I can also work out what will make a viable undead army too as with the chat on characters currently bouncing around I wouldn't have a clue how vamps will end up.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 09, 2010, 06:12:08 pm
I'm just going to make a small order in the mean time, so we have some in stock..
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Tom Hale on June 09, 2010, 08:00:17 pm
I'm tempted by 10 undead knights, and I need a few more ghouls. Will get back to you on it
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on June 21, 2010, 03:48:14 pm
Not sure if you've seen my PM yet Ol, but can I place an order for 100 of the Ironclad dwarfs.

As you told the mantic salesperson I've more money than sense!
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: maelzch on June 21, 2010, 06:20:30 pm
Quote from: Dave on June 21, 2010, 03:48:14 pm
As you told the mantic salesperson I've more money than sense!

seems to be very true!

Personally, I'm not a fan of the look of the mantic dwarves
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on June 21, 2010, 09:55:15 pm
I liked the look of the ones with 2 handed weapons, which is what I want these fore, I reckon with a different shaped shield the hw&s ones will look good too.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 24, 2010, 11:10:31 am
Going to order them today mate..
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Undead Dan on June 24, 2010, 11:56:30 am
Good stuff, I was about to go elsewhere for mah Ghouls! I should be able to paint 'em up in time for Tides of Chaos now :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on June 24, 2010, 12:26:03 pm
Hurrah, well ping me an invoice through and I'll ensure the cash comes the other way.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 24, 2010, 12:42:50 pm
Yep the order should be in tomorrow, how many ghouls do you want Dan?
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Another Richard on June 24, 2010, 01:21:28 pm
Could I get undead catapult batery too please (the one with two in the box)
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Undead Dan on June 25, 2010, 01:41:13 am
I need 20 Ghouls, will grab em next week :)
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 25, 2010, 02:12:02 pm
Quote from: Another Richard on June 24, 2010, 01:21:28 pm
Could I get undead catapult batery too please (the one with two in the box)

I placed the order just before you posted mate, and I did not get any, I will do another order in a few weeks and I will get some then, if you still want one by then squire...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Another Richard on June 25, 2010, 03:04:37 pm
Quote from: fatolaf on June 25, 2010, 02:12:02 pm
I placed the order just before you posted mate, and I did not get any, I will do another order in a few weeks and I will get some then, if you still want one by then squire...
I will still want a box of them in a few weeks time
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on June 29, 2010, 09:06:16 pm
A few bugs in the system Dave and Dan are slowing down the invoicing, on their way chaps soon...
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on June 30, 2010, 04:58:07 pm
No worries at all chief.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Veldemere on June 30, 2010, 05:33:44 pm
Those dwarves do keep tempting me with their stunty dwarfy cheapness (comparatively). :))
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on July 01, 2010, 09:49:16 am
Once I get some built and painted up I'll let you know how they stack up.  I had my hands on the sprue at the 6 nations and they were decent quality.  Not the tonnes of options like the GW ones but a decent finish and if you like the look of them then I see no reason not to use them.

It really comes down to styling, some people just don't like the way they look.  One concern is how they'll paint up, because the heads are so built into the body it might not look quite as good as the GW ones and the beards may not be as nicely detailled but I like the fact they have proper legs unlike the GW ones!
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Veldemere on July 01, 2010, 10:44:22 am
Yes, whilst I love the look of some of the GW dwarves (some of the best sculpts IMHO) anotomically they are questionable at best, I could possibly get used to the lack of neck. Having now seen the sprues I am a little closer to being swayed.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Dave on July 05, 2010, 03:35:39 pm
Receipt of 100 mantic dwarfs taken, many thanks OG Games.  Pics of 50 GW weilding dwarfs to follow!

Now I've got my hands on them I am still rather pleased.  Initial views of the models and I'm thinking I like the posing and the style of the figure, plenty of leg on show and really top heavy looking which makes them seem a bit taller than GW ones, but I suspect they are the same height when side by side.

Style
The detail of the figures is good but not amazing.  They have a decent balance between armour and cloth to enable showing off of clan colours which is important.  The faces aren't spectacular, I suspect the eyes will look kak unless a great deal of care is taken in painting them, so might just make do with a wash in the recesses so will in fact be quicker to paint!  Not gone overkill on pouches and detail but they do have some, which is good, I hate spending ages picking out crap which people will then never look at.  Beards are a bit meh, suspect they won't look as good as the GW ones but they're not as dominant on the model so it's not such an issue.

Contents
Box comes with 3 of troop sprue and 1 of command. 
Troop sprue has -
2 Body, head,left arm all in 1 piece
1 body, left arm in 1 piece (no head) and
2 body, with seperate upper torso which has both arms attached, one holding axe and shield, other has shield and an empty hand to fit GW into.
2 heads (so one spare in the box)
4 right arms- 3 of which are holding single hand weapons, 1 open for GW (so 1 spare)
2GWs
3shields
Extras
1 'churchill' dog, 1 orc head, 1 dead/wounded dwarf, 1 tankard


Not quite sure on why they split the two body/upper torso figures as ok the sculpt of the legs is a bit different with opposite leg forward but doubt people will really notice when as a unit.

Command sprue has-
2 Body, head,left arm all in 1 piece
1 body, left arm in 1 piece (no head) and
2 body, with seperate upper torso which have no arms attached
4 Heads (so 1 spare)
4 GWs
4 right arms with no weapons
2 right arms with HWs (so 1 spare right arm between the options)
2 left arms (none spare)
One horn, one banner pole (very minimalist, will be using the banner flags from the GW dwarf box set here).
Extras
3 runic thingys to add as decoration, looks like they're designed to go on the standard pole.
4 shields

Quality
By this it is basically mould lines I'm looking at.  Round the body there is a single mould line which runs the entire of the single piece dwarfs from side to side, pretty standard stuff, doesn't seem too big and not on the boundary of too much detail.  It does run across the chainmail on their legs which might be a bit of a hassle to clean up but otherwise it's all pretty flat surfaces so well thought out.

The arms and heads seem to be pretty minimal on the mould lines which is a bonus, minimal issues of cleaning them out between fingers as they are well defined and no obvious misalignment going on which can sometimes occur.
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: fatolaf on July 05, 2010, 03:53:15 pm
I saw Ritchie building his last night and I think the biggest problem you will have Dave is ranking them up, build whilst ranking is the key..

Nice review mate, enjoy building them all
Title: Re: Mantic Games
Post by: Veldemere on July 06, 2010, 07:49:19 am
Dave, a very good assessment of the models, as Ol mentioned ranking is giving me a little headache but I will be getting more.