New OG Comp

[FrankHunter]

My "lego comment" was clearly a joke, and I am sure Tom is also aware of that.
My whole point has been misunderstood. I don't see what "gaming style" has to do with discussion on comp.
I was simply arguing that THIS comp can be improved. This comes naturally from a fact like that WoC have a huge list of comp, while VC have a couple of words (btw I am sure that Tom was simply being lazy!).
Following your line of thought, then a WoC player will not have any fun at this event, because his army will totally be wrecked by an almost uncomped VC one.
That's why I was saying that "hard comp" is an hard path, and not always the best. Tournament with hard comp are usually the most competitive ones, and it's easy to understand why. If we want to keep things more "friendly" (and once again I want to reiterate that there is absolutely no relationship between competitiveness and friendly....ess. Has happened to me to argue with what seemed at first to be the most relaxed players. It's not about WHAT you play, but HOW) then let's just go with low-to-no comp, so anyone can have fun showing his favorite toy and rolling dice.

[Crompton]

Frank, you see some holes in the comp and they haven't been addressed? Well that is good, prove to everyone what is broken with it by turning up to the next Waaagh and smashing face. A lot about an initial comp is theory hammer until you see how the changes synergise together. I agree that VC look strong and uncomped, screams, ethereal, blender lord, magic up the wazoo is all available. Yet traditionally they haven't done that well, which I guess is why Tom has left them alone a bit.

As for WoC, the only bit of comp that actually bothers me is "May take 2 of the following choices (lv4 death/tzeench, hellcannon, 0-2 chariots of any kind). You may take duplicate choices" first off the 0-2 bugs me as a list without any chariots has 0 of them thus being a choice....in fact you have duplicated it (/pedantic mode)! Secondly, are the special chariots really so ace that they need to be comped in such a way?

[underscore]

I guess it makes as much sense to put this here as anywhere else:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer/WARHAMMER_RULEBOOKv1.9.pdf

Looks like the 50% Lords & Heroes is 'official' now.

[roland murat]

Lore of undeath is also available to everyone apparently too

[Pip]

ARGH WOOD ELVES GOT AN FAQ

WHERE'S THE LIZARDMAN ONE GW

WHERE'S THE LIZARDMAN ONE

[katarr]

Nice business decision for them to make everyone have to buy a load of undead .

Will be interesting to see how things affects things.

[roland murat]

Prehaps this is more something for a different thread but the lore of undeath raising spells just allows monstrous creatures etc from the vamp and TK book? Or does it permit you to raise, say, Skullcrushers if using the warriors book?

[underscore]

http://www.thefieldsofblood.com/2014/08/the-lore-of-undeath.html

Just the Undead Legions: I guess this means that they are also a proper thing for GW.

[Pip]

TBH I don't foresee many people using the LOU with generic wizards. Unless you have Nagash or Arkhan's multipliers, the max range is 12" and the max unit size (barring the 24+ boosted monster summoning spell) is 150pts. It's not terrible but it doesn't compare to Purple Sun etc.

Speaking of which - if the End Times stuff is going into core, I wonder if there'll be some special downside to the Lore of Death in 9th? Nagash messed with the wind of Shyish in the fluff book - to the extent that most of the Amethyst College dropped dead or went nuts, if I recall correctly.

[fatolaf]

Looks like the 50% Lords & Heroes is 'official' now.